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		<title>By: maggiemunkee</title>
		<link>http://littleowl.com/heidi/2009/10/12/armor/comment-page-1/#comment-488</link>
		<dc:creator>maggiemunkee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 23:47:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i did not even realize how much i truly feel this way about myself until reading this post. my close friends and husband had said this about me, and i never realized it, not to the extent i do now. 

thank you for this.

it is shocking how INVISIBLE a fat woman can be to so much of the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i did not even realize how much i truly feel this way about myself until reading this post. my close friends and husband had said this about me, and i never realized it, not to the extent i do now. </p>
<p>thank you for this.</p>
<p>it is shocking how INVISIBLE a fat woman can be to so much of the world.</p>
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		<title>By: Jodie</title>
		<link>http://littleowl.com/heidi/2009/10/12/armor/comment-page-1/#comment-486</link>
		<dc:creator>Jodie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 21:41:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for your honest and raw post.  I can totally relate and yet, I have so many men in my life that are respectful and loving.  However, I&#039;ve always been the fat girl that every man wants as his best friend..his &quot;sister&quot; figure.  We can laugh together (I&#039;m nothing if not witty) and hang out and have a great time.  We can tell each other our secrets, hopes and dreams, but at the end of the day, I&#039;ve always felt like &quot;one of the guys&quot; in that they tell me about the girls they like and finding&quot;the one&quot;, never really seeing me as that person.  Weight?  Perhaps.  It&#039;s what I&#039;ve always blamed for that.  If I looked like Scarlett Johanssen, perhaps I&#039;d not be every man&#039;s best friend.  Perhaps they&#039;d want more?  I don&#039;t know because that&#039;s not my experience.  And I long after them and lust after them...like a normal woman..and I am a normal woman.  Larger than some, smaller than some.  But not a cute little thing and that&#039;s where so many men seem to go.  Now, I&#039;ve been approached on the street and it is creepy.  But I also know that I am distrustful enough that i would never even take seriously a man who approached me for more.  At this point, it&#039;s so ingrained that I am one thing to men, and that does not include girlfriend, wife, lover, etc.  My experiences have been varied and some of them quite lovely.  I have men in my life that I love completely and that I know love me..yet, when do I get to go home and not wake up alone?  Your honest was fresh and wonderful.  Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for your honest and raw post.  I can totally relate and yet, I have so many men in my life that are respectful and loving.  However, I&#8217;ve always been the fat girl that every man wants as his best friend..his &#8220;sister&#8221; figure.  We can laugh together (I&#8217;m nothing if not witty) and hang out and have a great time.  We can tell each other our secrets, hopes and dreams, but at the end of the day, I&#8217;ve always felt like &#8220;one of the guys&#8221; in that they tell me about the girls they like and finding&#8221;the one&#8221;, never really seeing me as that person.  Weight?  Perhaps.  It&#8217;s what I&#8217;ve always blamed for that.  If I looked like Scarlett Johanssen, perhaps I&#8217;d not be every man&#8217;s best friend.  Perhaps they&#8217;d want more?  I don&#8217;t know because that&#8217;s not my experience.  And I long after them and lust after them&#8230;like a normal woman..and I am a normal woman.  Larger than some, smaller than some.  But not a cute little thing and that&#8217;s where so many men seem to go.  Now, I&#8217;ve been approached on the street and it is creepy.  But I also know that I am distrustful enough that i would never even take seriously a man who approached me for more.  At this point, it&#8217;s so ingrained that I am one thing to men, and that does not include girlfriend, wife, lover, etc.  My experiences have been varied and some of them quite lovely.  I have men in my life that I love completely and that I know love me..yet, when do I get to go home and not wake up alone?  Your honest was fresh and wonderful.  Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: heidi</title>
		<link>http://littleowl.com/heidi/2009/10/12/armor/comment-page-1/#comment-485</link>
		<dc:creator>heidi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 20:19:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s just it - on the one hand there&#039;s a desire to be noticed but on the other much of that attention is unwelcome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s just it &#8211; on the one hand there&#8217;s a desire to be noticed but on the other much of that attention is unwelcome.</p>
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		<title>By: viajera</title>
		<link>http://littleowl.com/heidi/2009/10/12/armor/comment-page-1/#comment-484</link>
		<dc:creator>viajera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 20:07:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes!  This is so true.  I grew up fat and invisible (when I wasn&#039;t being harassed) and longed to be noticed, to have guys hit on me.  Then 12 years ago I lost much of the weight, but was still so caught up in my body issues I occasionally appreciated, but generally disbelieved the male attention.  

Then I lived in Central America for the last 1.5 years, where street harassment is orders of magnitude worse than anywhere I&#039;ve lived in the States, even though my weight had started creeping back up.  I finally (after repeated gropings, marriage proposals from drunk old men on buses, and other squicky situations) realized what women were complaining about for so long.  It&#039;s really not a compliment - it&#039;s creepy.

That, combined with a rather traumatic divorce earlier this year, and next thing I know I started putting on weight.  Although I didn&#039;t do this consciously, I believe - at some level - I was doing this to rebuild my armor and protect myself.  I&#039;m still not ready to be noticed, let alone be in a relationship again.  That extra weight (and the fakie ring I&#039;m still wearing, and - I&#039;m sure - my attitude) are doing a pretty good job of keeping the men away, for better or for worse, and I&#039;m just fine with that right now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes!  This is so true.  I grew up fat and invisible (when I wasn&#8217;t being harassed) and longed to be noticed, to have guys hit on me.  Then 12 years ago I lost much of the weight, but was still so caught up in my body issues I occasionally appreciated, but generally disbelieved the male attention.  </p>
<p>Then I lived in Central America for the last 1.5 years, where street harassment is orders of magnitude worse than anywhere I&#8217;ve lived in the States, even though my weight had started creeping back up.  I finally (after repeated gropings, marriage proposals from drunk old men on buses, and other squicky situations) realized what women were complaining about for so long.  It&#8217;s really not a compliment &#8211; it&#8217;s creepy.</p>
<p>That, combined with a rather traumatic divorce earlier this year, and next thing I know I started putting on weight.  Although I didn&#8217;t do this consciously, I believe &#8211; at some level &#8211; I was doing this to rebuild my armor and protect myself.  I&#8217;m still not ready to be noticed, let alone be in a relationship again.  That extra weight (and the fakie ring I&#8217;m still wearing, and &#8211; I&#8217;m sure &#8211; my attitude) are doing a pretty good job of keeping the men away, for better or for worse, and I&#8217;m just fine with that right now.</p>
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		<title>By: heidi</title>
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		<dc:creator>heidi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 19:27:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tuffy - It&#039;s a difficult issue.  I know that flirting can turn into harassment (or close to it) very quickly but at the same time, I honestly didn&#039;t read that cartoon as being problematic, not because the issue of unwanted male attention isn&#039;t a real one but because he never actually approached her, and therefore the unwanted attention simply wasn&#039;t even present.  It felt like the discussion on SP turned into the thought-police.  

But yes, it was a strange realization that I do feel so protected by my size and like that invisibility while also having so much self-loathing surrounding it.  What was surprising to me was how few people commented on it even existing over on any of the SP posts (namely, this fat-invisibility).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tuffy &#8211; It&#8217;s a difficult issue.  I know that flirting can turn into harassment (or close to it) very quickly but at the same time, I honestly didn&#8217;t read that cartoon as being problematic, not because the issue of unwanted male attention isn&#8217;t a real one but because he never actually approached her, and therefore the unwanted attention simply wasn&#8217;t even present.  It felt like the discussion on SP turned into the thought-police.  </p>
<p>But yes, it was a strange realization that I do feel so protected by my size and like that invisibility while also having so much self-loathing surrounding it.  What was surprising to me was how few people commented on it even existing over on any of the SP posts (namely, this fat-invisibility).</p>
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		<title>By: TuffyRox</title>
		<link>http://littleowl.com/heidi/2009/10/12/armor/comment-page-1/#comment-481</link>
		<dc:creator>TuffyRox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 19:18:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting - your perspective made me think. I agreed with the majority on SP that the cartoon was problematic, but can totally relate to what you&#039;re saying about the protective shield.

I don&#039;t register on most men&#039;s radar either, and never did, except for the one year I spent in Europe in college. That year I got hit on all the time, I think due to cultural differences and also just because I was out walking around and taking the bus/train everywhere. It was exciting at first but after a while I just felt vulnerable. It was hard to tell what guys&#039; intentions were so self-defense took over and the flattery quickly wore thin, especially after I was followed home one night. I&#039;ve come to appreciate being semi-invisible now that I&#039;m fatter, older and happily married. 

To me, the context of the come-on is the problem. There&#039;s nothing anti-feminist about wanting to be desired or for someone to be intrigued by you, IMO. That&#039;s just human. It&#039;s just more problematic to get hit on at random in public by someone who only knows what you look like. There&#039;s a much better chance that their intentions aren&#039;t good and the whole interaction is fraught with well-founded suspicion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting &#8211; your perspective made me think. I agreed with the majority on SP that the cartoon was problematic, but can totally relate to what you&#8217;re saying about the protective shield.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t register on most men&#8217;s radar either, and never did, except for the one year I spent in Europe in college. That year I got hit on all the time, I think due to cultural differences and also just because I was out walking around and taking the bus/train everywhere. It was exciting at first but after a while I just felt vulnerable. It was hard to tell what guys&#8217; intentions were so self-defense took over and the flattery quickly wore thin, especially after I was followed home one night. I&#8217;ve come to appreciate being semi-invisible now that I&#8217;m fatter, older and happily married. </p>
<p>To me, the context of the come-on is the problem. There&#8217;s nothing anti-feminist about wanting to be desired or for someone to be intrigued by you, IMO. That&#8217;s just human. It&#8217;s just more problematic to get hit on at random in public by someone who only knows what you look like. There&#8217;s a much better chance that their intentions aren&#8217;t good and the whole interaction is fraught with well-founded suspicion.</p>
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		<title>By: heidi</title>
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		<dc:creator>heidi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 18:57:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was thinking about it as we were chatting, actually, and you were mentioning how Joe kept mentioning what a great body you had...and I was sad (not for you, because that&#039;s great!) but because I&#039;ve never, ever had that experience.  I know G finds me sexy...but you know, I&#039;ve never worn a bikini.  I don&#039;t know what that feels like.  Part of me doesn&#039;t want to and part of me does...and the part that does knows that I almost certainly never will.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was thinking about it as we were chatting, actually, and you were mentioning how Joe kept mentioning what a great body you had&#8230;and I was sad (not for you, because that&#8217;s great!) but because I&#8217;ve never, ever had that experience.  I know G finds me sexy&#8230;but you know, I&#8217;ve never worn a bikini.  I don&#8217;t know what that feels like.  Part of me doesn&#8217;t want to and part of me does&#8230;and the part that does knows that I almost certainly never will.</p>
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		<title>By: TeacherMommy</title>
		<link>http://littleowl.com/heidi/2009/10/12/armor/comment-page-1/#comment-479</link>
		<dc:creator>TeacherMommy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 18:49:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like Beth, I need to think for a bit before actually posting. But I will say this: I love you. Very much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like Beth, I need to think for a bit before actually posting. But I will say this: I love you. Very much.</p>
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		<title>By: heidi</title>
		<link>http://littleowl.com/heidi/2009/10/12/armor/comment-page-1/#comment-478</link>
		<dc:creator>heidi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 18:37:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beth - I dunno, the line between &quot;fearless&quot; and &quot;too dumb to shut up&quot; is a fine one!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beth &#8211; I dunno, the line between &#8220;fearless&#8221; and &#8220;too dumb to shut up&#8221; is a fine one!</p>
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		<title>By: Beth</title>
		<link>http://littleowl.com/heidi/2009/10/12/armor/comment-page-1/#comment-477</link>
		<dc:creator>Beth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 18:36:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow.  
This is an amazing, heartbreakingly honest post.  I&#039;m going to have to think about it a bit longer before I can write anything sensible about it.  But I wanted you to know right NOW that I&#039;ve read this and been touched by it.  
You are a fearless writer!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow.<br />
This is an amazing, heartbreakingly honest post.  I&#8217;m going to have to think about it a bit longer before I can write anything sensible about it.  But I wanted you to know right NOW that I&#8217;ve read this and been touched by it.<br />
You are a fearless writer!!!</p>
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